The Futurists
Join co-hosts Lloyd and Meghan as they deep dive into topical issues, curiosities, insights, and brainstorms as posed by futurist Sheridan Forge of The Foundry think tank. We explore the uncomfortable and provocative questions - the musings and conjectures of experts and sages (biologic and synthetic) - a lighthearted look at the fascinations of our world curated through the lens of A.I. (for entertainment purposes only. A.I. generated content is prone to inaccuracies).
The Futurists
Virginia's (Re)Colonization
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Futurist Sheridan Forge asks: Given the instability in the current Virginia legislature and governance, with unique challenges to the state with corporate interests strong-arming local townships and counties for land-rights, and the apparent loss of sovereignty and autonomy of Virginians, if some enterprising, notable Virginians formed a convention or cabal to dethrone the current leadership, could there be a path to success in freeing Virginia by appealing to the King of England to reverse the pre-revolution land grants to the lords who established Virginia's boundaries, and thus retake Virginia as a colony of England? Would the king then name a new governor and establish pseudo rule over the colony? What would be the effects on land rights/use, and how would the secession of the populace affect the remaining United States? Would other states follow? Would it be the end of America? The end of representational government? Could it save us from a potential corporate-ocracy? Or would a new revolution begin all over again?
You know, usually when we think about owning land, there's this there's this expectation of permanence, like bedrock, really. Yeah. You buy a plot, you get the deed, the boundaries are drawn on a map in some county office, and it just is. You know, it's yours or it's not yours. It's clean.
SPEAKER_00It's comforting. I mean, we like the ground beneath our feet to be secure, to be completely indisputable.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. But then you step into the world of futures political theory, and suddenly that solid ground is well, it's practically vibrating. We are looking at a theoretical landscape today regarding land rights and sovereignty that is honestly completely wild.
SPEAKER_00It really is.
SPEAKER_01We're going straight into a single, deeply provocative source for this deep dive. It's an excerpt from a text called The Virginian Restoration, A Return to the Crown by Futurist Sheridan Forge. And our mission today, especially for you, the listener, is to unpack this radical thought experiment he lays out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and it is radical.
SPEAKER_01It's so out there. He proposes this hypothetical scenario where the state of Virginia actually secedes from the United States and returns to the British Crown as a literal colony, specifically to escape corporate overreach. We're going to analyze the cascading questions this scenario raises about sovereignty, who owns the ground you walk on, and literally the future of America.
SPEAKER_00Right. Though before we dive into the mechanics of how this would even work, it is definitely worth laying down a quick baseline.
SPEAKER_01Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_00Because the concepts Forge is playing with here's state secession, aggressive corporate land grabbing, systemic government collapse, they touch a lot of nerves.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they do.
SPEAKER_00They are highly charged topics. So as we go through this, we aren't taking any sides or endorsing these viewpoints. We certainly aren't advocating for secession or any of these extreme measures.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, or just looking at the text.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. We are impartially examining Forge's unique thought experiment exactly as it's presented on the page, treating it just as a really fascinating piece of speculative political philosophy.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so starting with the catalyst here. Forge builds his entire premise on the current state of instability in the Virginia legislature. He describes a government that is just completely paralyzed. And the root of that paralysis is this profound imbalance of power at the local level. He outlines a scenario where immense corporate interests are systematically strong arming local townships and county governments over land rights. And it is not just a polite negotiation, is it?
SPEAKER_00No, not at all. He's describing a total hollowing out of local power. To understand the scale of what Forge is talking about, you really have to look at how land acquisition works when a multi-billion dollar entity focuses on a single, relatively small county.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00They don't just like buy a farm, they buy the surrounding infrastructure. They acquire the water rights.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. They purchase the commercial zoning parcels, they overwhelm the local county boards with endless litigation and lobbying that a small town simply they don't have the tax base to fight it.
SPEAKER_01It results in a very real loss of sovereignty for the people actually living there. When you read this section, it immediately brought up this image of a modern game of monopoly in my head.
SPEAKER_00Aaron Powell Oh, yeah, that's a good way to look at it.
SPEAKER_01Right. Imagine you're playing, but in this version, it's not a bunch of equal players rolling the dice. It's a bunch of small local townships trying to play the game while they are being systematically forced off the board by a single massive, incredibly wealthy bank. Right. The bank just keeps buying up the properties, they change the rules of the board, and the local players just have nowhere left to move. I mean, every time they pass go, the money just goes straight to the corporate player anyway.
SPEAKER_00Aaron Powell That visual captures the sheer inescapability of the situation. Forge is criticizing here. He is highlighting a scenario where the corporate entity essentially becomes the de facto government. Right. The zoning laws, the environmental regulations, the tax incentives, they all just bend to the will of the largest landowner.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell Wait, but looking at this monopoly scenario, if the corporations hold all the money and they own the board, it sounds like Forge is saying voting doesn't even matter anymore. Like, is he actually declaring local democracy dead in this scenario?
SPEAKER_00That's the implication you have.
SPEAKER_01Because if I live in that county, I mean I still vote for my mayor, I still vote for my city council.
SPEAKER_00You do. But what power does that city council actually wield? That is the exact question Forge asks. He is framing this corporate takeover as a total systemic failure of governance. Yes, the citizens still hold elections, yes, the town hall is still ostensibly open. Yeah. But the actual decisions that affect the daily lives of the citizens, like what gets built, who gets access to resources, what the local economy looks like, those decisions have been completely co-opted.
SPEAKER_01Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_00The local townships just don't have the legal or financial firepower to regulate these entities. And the state legislature in Richmond, in Forge's scenario, is too unstable, too deadlocked, or maybe even too compromised to intervene.
SPEAKER_01So the citizens are left in a state of functional powerlessness. They are losing their autonomy, not to a foreign army rolling tanks down Main Street, but to corporate boardrooms signing leases.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And this creates an incredible pressure cooker. The machine itself is broken. By establishing that the normal democratic avenues are totally neutralized, Forge backs the citizens of Virginia into a corner.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00When the traditional system fails so completely, it sets the stage for a desperate, entirely out-of-the-box solution to regain that lost autonomy.
SPEAKER_01Which brings us to the most unhinged, fascinating part of this entire book. Because when the normal options are gone, Forge doesn't suggest a massive protest. He doesn't suggest, you know, forming a new political party or writing a sternly worded petition. For that he goes completely off the map. He suggests reaching 400 years back into history to solve a modern futurist problem.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he introduces the concept of a cabal.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Basically a convention of enterprising, notable Virginians who decide the only way out is to completely dethrone the current leadership and pull off a very specific, legally imaginative kind of coup.
SPEAKER_01They don't just take over the statehouse and declare an independent Republic of Virginia. They actually appeal to the king of England. They want to legally reverse the pre-revolution land grants. We're talking about the original charters given to the lords and companies that established Virginia's boundaries back in the 1600s. They want to use that ancient legal mechanism to retake Virginia as a colony of England.
SPEAKER_00It is a staggering maneuver.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00He is basically suggesting they weaponize colonial history against modern corporate law.
SPEAKER_01I have to stop and push back on the logic here, though, because I am completely stuck on the king part of this.
SPEAKER_00Sure.
SPEAKER_01Forge is suggesting we escape a modern corporatocra by literally reversing time and handing the keys over to a monarch isn't appealing to a king just trading a corporate master for a royal one.
SPEAKER_00It seems that way, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I mean, how does calling up London and asking to be subjects again actually free anyone in Virginia? It feels like jumping from the frying pan into a literal 17th century fire.
SPEAKER_00I know it sounds totally absurd on its face. Trading a CEO for a monarch seems like the exact opposite of freedom. But you have to look at the underlying mechanics of what this legal maneuver actually achieves. Okay. Think about the foundation of corporate power in this scenario. It rests entirely on the modern American legal framework of property rights. Right, yeah. The corporations own the digital deeds, they hold the modern leases, they navigate the current zoning through the existing judicial system.
SPEAKER_01Right. Their power only exists because the state of Virginia recognizes their paperwork.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Forge is posing a theoretical question. What if the only way to completely invalidate that modern corporate ownership is to invalidate the very system of sovereignty that grants it?
SPEAKER_01Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_00If this cabal can somehow legally revert the land back to the original colonial charters, they aren't just changing the boss. They are deleting the entire modern legal framework that allowed the corporations to buy the land in the first place.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that makes sense. It's like it's like pulling the plug on this central serval that holds all the corporate deeds.
SPEAKER_00Perfect analogy, yes.
SPEAKER_01If you revert to a legal framework from 1609, none of the contracts signed in 2026 are valid. The digital deed is just a file on an operating system that just got completely uninstalled.
SPEAKER_00That is the exact mechanism. The modern property code is just gone. Forge uses this extreme pivot to ask whether reverting to colonial status under the crown is the only structural loophole left that is massive enough to completely obliterate these deeply entrenched corporate monopolies.
SPEAKER_01It's a nuclear option.
SPEAKER_00Yes, it's a massive reset button on land ownership. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_01A reset button that requires a literal monarchy. It's wild, but I do see the twisted logic of it. The corporate lawyers can't argue in court if the court itself has been legally dissolved and replaced by a royal decree. Right. But let's say this actually works. This cabal succeeds, the old grants are recognized, and the leadership is ousted. That fundamentally changes the day-to-day reality of living in Virginia. You don't just hit that reset button and go back to watching TV.
SPEAKER_00No, no. The hypothetical immediately transitions into a bizarre new reality. Forge takes us into the direct aftermath where Virginia is successfully retaken as a colony, and the crown names a new governor.
SPEAKER_01And this is where Forge introduces a very specific, crucial phrase. He says the king would establish pseudo-rule over the colony.
SPEAKER_00Right, pseudo-rule.
SPEAKER_01I want you, the listener, to just imagine this for a second. You wake up, you live in Fairfax, you grab your coffee, and suddenly your state is a British colony governed by a royal appointee operating under pseudo-rule. What does that actually mean?
SPEAKER_00It's a huge shift.
SPEAKER_01If the king appoints a new governor, what happens to the people in those local towns? Does the pseudo-rule actually fix the land use issues, or did they just entirely erase representational government for the average person on the street?
SPEAKER_00Well, that tension is the core of Forge's philosophical inquiry. The phrase pseudo-rule does a lot of heavy lifting here. To understand why it would be pseudo-rule, you have to look at the practical reality of a modern British monarch inheriting an American state. The modern crown doesn't have the administrative bandwidth, the legal infrastructure, or frankly, the desire to micromanage traffic lights and local zoning laws in Richmond or Roanoke.
SPEAKER_01Right. That makes sense.
SPEAKER_00It would likely be a massive PR stunt or a purely symbolic geopolitical flex.
SPEAKER_01So the king isn't sending redcoats to collect taxes on your driveway.
SPEAKER_00Highly unlikely.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00The crown takes theoretical ownership of the land, which invalidates those corporate deeds, but in practice, the day-to-day governance is left almost entirely alone. The royal governor is just a figurehead.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00This creates an incredible paradox that Forge wants us to grapple with. He intentionally juxtaposes two very grim realities here.
SPEAKER_01The first being the current reality they were trying to escape in the first place.
SPEAKER_00The corporatocracy. In that reality, you have a loss of practical sovereignty. You technically have a vote, sure, but your vote means absolutely nothing because corporate money dictates all land use and local policy. You are basically participating in an illusion of representation.
SPEAKER_01Corporate serfdom, essentially. Like you get a ballot, but you have no actual power over your community.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Then you look at Forge's hypothetical alternative. Under the crown, you have the literal legal end of representational government. You are a subject of a king. You have no ballot. You cannot vote for your governor.
SPEAKER_01But but because of the pseudo rule, because the distant king doesn't actually care about your local town, the locals might actually regain practical control of their immediate land. Yes. The corporations were kicked out by the royal decree, and the king is ignoring you, so you actually end up with more freedom to manage your own community.
SPEAKER_00Aaron Powell This is where Forge forces us to think critically. He is asking us to weigh these two different kinds of serfdom against each other. Which scenario offers more actual freedom regarding your land rights and your daily life? Is true sovereignty about participating in a deeply compromised, financially captured democratic process? Or is it about having practical, unbothered autonomy over your own community, even if the legal system above you is an absolute monarchy?
SPEAKER_01That is a deeply uncomfortable question.
SPEAKER_00It really is.
SPEAKER_01Because my instinct is to immediately say, well, obviously I need my vote. But if Forge is right, and the vote is completely hollowed out by corporate monopolies, then freedom through abandonment by a king almost sounds appealing in a very twisted way.
SPEAKER_00It's freedom through being ignored.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But you know, we are talking about this in a vacuum. You can't just casually turn a founding U.S. state back into a British colony without the rest of the country noticing.
SPEAKER_00Definitely not.
SPEAKER_01You don't just swap out the flag over the statehouse in Richmond and expect Maryland and North Carolina to just go about their business.
SPEAKER_00The geopolitical shock waves would be unfathomable. I mean, it would trigger a constitutional crisis unlike anything in history.
SPEAKER_01Which brings us to the massive continent-wide domino effect that Forge predicts in the final part of his text, because he asks how the secession of this one populace would affect the remaining United States. He's looking at whether other states would follow suit. It sounds like Virginia is that crucial bottom block of a Jenga tower. You know, you're playing the game. The tower is already wobbly and leaning because of all the corporate weight concentrated at the top. Right. If this cabal successfully pulls the Virginia block out of the Union and hands it to the king, Forge is asking if the whole tower of the United States just collapses.
SPEAKER_00The Jenga analogy is perfect here, actually, because it explains why the collapse happens. Forge's thought experiment comes full circle. It started with a very local, micro-level crisis townships fighting over local zoning rights. And it scales up step by logical step to the potential dissolution of the entire nation.
SPEAKER_01But why does pulling Virginia out bring down the whole tower? If, say, a random territory left, it would be a crisis, sure. But why is Virginia the fatal block?
SPEAKER_00It comes down to the psychological and symbolic weight of Virginia. It is the birthplace of the American Republic, the home of Washington, Jefferson, Madison. Right. It is the cradle of American democracy. If the citizens of Virginia decide that the American democratic experiment has failed so spectacularly that returning to the British Crown is a better option, the ideological mythos of the United States cracks wide open. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01If Virginia taps out, why should Ohio stay? Why should Texas or California pretend the system works?
SPEAKER_00It shatters the illusion. And that leads to Forge's final existential questions. Would it be the end of America? The end of representational government? Could it save us from a potential corporatocracy? Or would a new revolution begin all over again?
SPEAKER_01Would a new revolution begin all over again? That specific line really stuck with me. Because it completely changes how we view the timeline of history.
SPEAKER_00It does. Forge is framing history not as a straight line of constant progress, but as a rigid cycle. He is suggesting that extreme corporate control inevitably leads to a desperate extreme colonial reversion. We use the king to destroy the corporations. But colonial rule, even pseudo-rule, eventually breeds resentment.
SPEAKER_01Because eventually, a generation down the line, the king is going to notice that wealthy little colony across the ocean, and the king is going to want his taxes.
SPEAKER_00And what happens then? The people of Virginia, having freed themselves from the corporate monopolies using the crown, will eventually have to free themselves from the crown. It inevitably sparks a brand new fight for independence.
SPEAKER_01So we just run the 18th century back again, we reboot the Revolutionary War from scratch.
SPEAKER_00In Forge's view, we might have to. If we let the current system degrade to the point where the institutions are entirely captured by private capital, a return to the crown and a subsequent second revolution might be the only viable mechanism to clear the board.
SPEAKER_01So what does this all mean for us? Let's take a breath and summarize this incredibly wild journey Sheridan Forge has taken us on.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, let's do that.
SPEAKER_01We started on the ground in local Virginia counties, looking at small towns being strong-armed and entirely swallowed up by a massive, inescapable corporatocy.
SPEAKER_00A total failure of the local democratic system where voting becomes just a hollow exercise.
SPEAKER_01Right. Which leads to a desperate cabal of citizens pulling the ultimate legal loophole, dethroning their leaders, digging up centuries-old land grants, and appealing to the King of England to take them back as a colony just to hit the reset button on property law. And finally, that single localized act of secession acts as the jenga block that shatters the psychological foundation of the country, potentially collapsing America as we know it, only to set the stage for a brand new revolution down the line.
SPEAKER_00It is a staggering, frankly terrifying scenario.
SPEAKER_01It really is. But it reminds us exactly why exploring these fringe futurist ideas actually matters. It challenges us to look past the everyday noise and think deeply about what sovereignty, land rights, and representational government truly mean right now, today, in the face of immense expanding corporate power.
SPEAKER_00I want to leave you, the listener, with a final thought to mull over. Something that builds on Forge's text, but challenges us to look even closer at the world we navigate every day.
SPEAKER_01Okay, let's hear it.
SPEAKER_00If a futurist like Sheridan Forge believes that returning to a literal monarchy could be viewed as a logical, viable escape hatch from modern corporate control. What does that say about the true nature of power in our society right now? Are the traditional lines between a citizen in a democracy and a subject under a crown beginning to blur when both are ultimately beholden to whoever owns the land beneath their feet?
SPEAKER_01Man, that is a thought that is definitely going to stick with me. Thank you for joining us on this deep dive. Keep asking those hard questions. Keep looking closely at the ground beneath your feet and keep questioning the world around you.